27. Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. Do people go to jail for lying at MEPS? He told me not to worry about it and say "no". I know a guy who lied about lasik because he didn't want to wait 6 months and nobody at meps found out. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. Thanks for the details. When I went to MEPs, like most people, I had something to lie about. My 90 day period was more like 2 months, because that's when they called me back for a followup, so it wouldn't have made sense (distance traveled and financially) to go back a month later for a '90 day' followup. Lost the navigator slot and was made a C130 mechanic. So they just left that section blank and filled in the most recent appointment, making it look as if i never went in at all until just the other day. The most popular bodybuilding message boards! Sounds about like what I figured. MEPS consult will do the corneal mapping, so no, we don't just guess at the diagnosis. Obviously I will tell them about my felony charge. I realize you were told to lie, but you should have refused. So do you think the cost is worth the benefit? 48.8K. This comment has been overwritten by this open source script to protect this user's privacy. What should I do if MEPS continues to request medical records that don't exist? First, you are the one liable WHEN you get busted lying. She passed all the exams and was cleared, then went to BMT and performed well. You have runs risk that a Soldier could not live with. Stupid kids want the power, the prestige, the money, the sweet benefitsthe military has a lot to offer. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn't they found it at meps . I had lasik back in November and just had an enhancement to my left eye on Friday that I've been stressing about. I have changed a few details to maintain anonymity, however the basics of the stories are very real and did happen. Once you have gone through initial questioning phases with your recruiter and have discussed your options, your recruiter will set an. This video I react to a video that JTsuits made where a person was kicked out of navy Bootcamp due to them being medically unfit. It is possible to lie about your depression during MEPS (Military Entrance Process). Telling them what I told the recruiter and what he told me. A young man decided to join the Air Force and contacted a Recruiter. Unless someone wants to send the mods proof of their M.D., and dig into medical history, you have no business declaring whether or not anyone's medical condition is non-serious, important, real, or anything else. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The forms tell you that you must disclose it. The rules here have not changed, but the enforcement will now result in a 30 day ban from APC for violations. Then to delete your comments, simply click on your username on Reddit, go to the comments tab, scroll down as far as possible (hint: use RES), and hit the new OVERWRITE button at the top. See Article 83 UCMJ. Also it is about what job that you are going to do as a Officer. My dad said hell no, lost 60lbs and 6 years later has had zero knee pain. Idk if the policy is 1 or 3 years, Ive encountered both. Overall, I have to say that I am troubled by the way you appear to be perceiving and interacting with the recruiters. Know all the risks and procedure limitations. Free online program to promote the safety and well-being of military families. Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. Now an MTI's recommendations are definitely considered, but they are really just a tiebreaker if the waiver authority is 50/50 on a case, and MTI's certainly do recommend separation sometimes. I know a guy who lied about lasik because he didn't want to wait 6 months and nobody at meps found out. 1) I have been told by my Officer Recruiter that I do NOT need any Letters of Recommendation for a package. !, Military Life and Issues, 8 replies Lying scumbag Johnson on MSNBC lying-no challenge from host, Elections, 31 replies Should I lie/not mention LASIK when I finally go to MEPs? No. Lying will. After seeing the counselor for about 3 months, he was diagnosed with Dysthymia and Social Anxiety Disorder (SAD). This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. As long as you werent taking the pills within 90 days it wont pop up so just dont talk about them. In another month, his symptoms and concerns had mostly resolved, and his cousin was also much better. You should have had a post-op visit to measure refractions at 90 days post-op and then another 30 days after that visit.https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf. LASIK and LASEK are forms of corrective refractive eye surgeries, and both reshape corneas permanently. Having inconsistencies on your forms vs verbal answers is usually a major issue and will make it very difficult for you to get into the Marines now. They don't pull up your records unless you need a clearance or unless it comes up. I even believed that my OR would appreciate my persistence in trying to get more info while he is on leave this week. This was the man who my friend had confessed his pot usage to when we first showed up a month ago, but now my friend lied to him and he accepted the lie without hesitation. Seriously folks, stop with the medical determinations. It may not display this or other websites correctly. : r/USMCboot. Don't they pull your medical records, or did this happen after they checked? Option 2: Lie. Thanks! PERIOD. Fraudulent Enlistment. They'll simply deny him enlistment and move-on. My ex, who was batshit crazy, probably Bi-polar and was on meds most of her teen life lied about it ALL at MEPs. Am I? Or should I be honest with my recruiter and if I cant get a waiver, lie at MEPS. He stopped seeing the counselor after only 6 months from beginning counseling and successfully continued his college education. MEPS stands for Military Entrance Processing Station. MEPS threaten to put these kids in fucking prison if they lie, and they lie anyway. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. My recruiter went the other direction, really stressed "Make sure you disclose EVERYTHING". So what should I do: should I call him and polk the bear? You will never become a United States Marine. Recruiter told me to lie . You need to disclose it. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Should I just wait for him to contact me? Some people really really want to join, and they'll try anything. He was only talking to a counselor because his cousin needed help and he wanted to support her as best he could. He. Adhd is no big deal, however if it's serious I would lie. So a few days later I went to MEPS but before we went we had to fill more paperwork out. This isn't the place, and you aren't the expert. If you struggle from any of the conditions mentioned below, it is a good idea to speak with a local U.S. Military recruiter. Bit of stretch that anybody would have any insight on this subject, but the only thing stopping me from getting accepted for MEPS is my LASIK documentation. You must log in or register to reply here. Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. I am perfectly health for Army service and will be telling hte MEPS doctors that *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. I informed my recruiter of this incident and he told me not to mention it to MEPS because it won't come back in a police check being so recent. broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of some sinus problems. After boot camp is MCT where all Marines go regardless of MOS. So I was told to go into his office and asked me if I was lying about any paperwork and that is there anything I didn't disclose with my recruiter or if I have done drugs. He was counseled, evaluated, and treated for EIA. Same with another section. The main difference between them is that with LASIK, a corneal flap is created and replaced, and with LASEK, the top layer of the cornea is loosened, moved, and reattached. They asked him if hadn't told them EVERYTHING and this was his last chance. It happened to be depression and medication for it. He told them. This experience also likely caused further stress and worsened his long-term mental health because he was suddenly out of a multi-year career, and wasted many weeks of his and the Air Force's time. Do you think that they would have been able to successfully cope with these circumstances following the earlier problems? Thank you for the quick replies. KUDOS! I know I have to be able to function without medication and I can, but have not been consistently been of the medication simply because of the existence of standardized tests should I lie to my recruiter and say that while I have such a prescription I have been off it for atleast the minimum time period states or should I be honest because in reality it doesnt take a long time to get off a medication completely atleast for ADHD medications which are stimulants and what they dont know wont hurt them because my ADHD does not really effect me much at all anymore. My cousin was in line for a navigator slot when he joined the Marines. Well today I reserved an 11x op 40 contract with plans to go to MEPS Tues/Wed. Its in your best interest to get through MEPS. (January 6, 2021, subversive for attending the rally - not me, but a friend). They may lie about behaviors, charges, and other possible information that could disqualify them from enlisting in the military. What will you do at PI or San Diego when the withdrawal symptoms hit? Major unions have lost court cases and in one instance suffered severe financial damage in the process. First, you didn't believe your OR so you called his boss who said the same thing, and then you come here looking for validation of the opposite advice. You might think to yourself, "How could he not know that he needed to disclose this information?" I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. As a result, his history of mental health wasn't assessed by MEPS. The flap is then placed back into its original position. If you do tell the truth about the surgery and wait 6 months for the lasik, you will probably still be able to get a contract, but you will have to go through a bunch of unnecessary shit. Now the most commonly performed eye laser surgery, LASIK involves creating a partial-thickness corneal flap and using an excimer laser to ablate the bed of the cornea. It's sometimes better to keep your trap shut and deal with possible consequences later. Quite a few of the guys in my squadron had a screw lose. Know preoperative, operative, and postoperative . And yet when the recruiter tells them to lie so he doesn't have to do paperwork they always believe him that no one will find out. Shoulda been a dishonorable. Talk openly with your recruiter, MEPS staff, and your family. For information regarding Navy enlisted ratings, see [Twisky's Rating Information Guide] (https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/). We lost quite a few, we were down to just a few of us by graduation. It does not belong to any particular service division. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I had the surgery in august of 2014. My experience: I told the truth about something that should have been a non-issue. I was planning on saying the wrist scar was from jumping over the fence as a kid or something like that. And if you don't know what to do, you have no business applying to the military. Want to learn about deploying, finances, mental health, cross-rating, and more? We all come to this website for information and most of us have been corrected on our approach by the main contributors in some fashion. MEPS, Eye Exam, and Lasik It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Looking at your previous 11 posts it looks like you might be joining the Marines. While there, he experienced the emotionally stressful and physically demanding environment of being a Trainee at Lackland AFB. I didn't want to throw anybody the bus just want the correct paperwork to be done because it would take a google search to find all that medical stuff on me and I would like to work in government, What do I do? I have ADHD and a prescription but function perfectly fine off the meds bc ADHD does not effect me much at all anymore. Here is the Press Release. Just something to think of. When I went to meps, I went into a room with a doctor, he made me strip down to my underwear and told me to slowly spin in a circle twice, so they will most likely notice any major scars. I got to certain sections and told him I have to say "yes" to these questions and I knew how important they were. Accidentally or on purpose are applicable. My friend says I might be in danger for being honest. Do not lie, falsify, or hide information. The girl with the suicide attempt would not be allowed to enlist today though. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. You were torn and want to be honest. Let's all throttle back a bit. When you're an officer and in a time-sensitive situation where lives are on the line, do you really think you have time to triple check? Any help would be appreciated. ", he thought the answer was "No" because his cousin was the one getting counseling and he hadn't been diagnosed. He said the tests they do would not notice the lasik scar it's only if you tell them you had lasik that they do more in depth tests if there's any issues. It indicates, "Click to perform a search". He said that there is a good chance that I could lose my op 40. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Glad to hear eye stuff is routine. Let's Talk 3..e-mail: nathaliemunoz@live.comSubject "Let's Talk" you can send me anything you want from any topic!Previous LET'S TALK:1. https://goo.gl/jim. The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . Your insistence on snapping back or being defensive only adds evidence to a immaturity that will not serve the military. One new winner* is announced every week! Finally, he was incorrectly interpreting the questions from his recruiter and MEPS to what he believed his own history was. So you want to start a career founded on integrity by lying? I lied at meps . They said "No problem, we'll work around it." I wouldn't recommend it (even ignoring the important integrity aspects of your question. Handle this the right way, as you should all things. Should I be honest with my recruiter and try to get a waiver? According to evidence presented at his trial, the Jacksonville military veteran was designated in July 2000 by the Department of Veterans Affairs as 100 percent disabled for bilateral blindness. Good luck to you. And also a expunged ticket and felony charges. You are using an out of date browser. Press J to jump to the feed. they'll find out if you need a Top Secret security clearance or if the issue comes up. Because he felt that his condition was very mild, and that it was part of his cousin's support program, he did not disclose this to his Recruiter, nor MEPS. There's been zero issues from the surgery and was absolutely necessary as I couldn't do more than 10 pushups without the wrist being in terrible pain. I have enough money saved to get the surgery, and I'm willing to wait the 180 days, but I don't know how available that waiver is, and my OR doesn't recommend doing anything that will create more hurdles for me to get past at MEPS, stating each hurdle decreases my chances of becoming an officer. Integrity is what you do or how you act when no one is watching. My gramma always told me I had to be able to look at myself in the mirror, and know that if I couldn't-- I wouldn't sleep well at night. About 3 years before joining the Air Force, his cousin attempted suicide. I got disqualified to join the Air Force/military and I wanted to let you all know what was going on and how I was disqualified by MEPS.. I swear I was born in the wrong generation. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The military is used to this, and they really don't care down the road. Interested in Officer programs? The medics at BMT requested and reviewed her civilian medical records to possibly determine the cause and any history of the condition. My only option is to wait another month just to go back to get a 'check up', costing me precious time and money again, without insurance, pushing back my MEPS appointment another month or two. Generally speaking, no. lie at MEPS? For some reason the Pacific breeze didnt reach that area. So what are the lessons from these stories? Ive had the doctor write two letters and both have not been good enough. Don't worry, you'll be fine, I had no issues. The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . I went through Air Force BMT in the lste 70's . By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Applicants often need further evaluation or counseling before they can live the rigorous and stressful military lifestyle. Yes, you need to be caught in the lie, but that isn't as difficult as you might think. If they ask, tell them it's a scar from when you were a kid. and was it a mistake for being honest at MEPS? If you are denied entry to the military, it is very possibly the best thing for both you and the government. They do that at the School of Infantry. And more people are going to lie now that everyone is getting diagnosed with ADHD because they're not interested in school (and ADHD is a disqualifier). Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. After a few more weeks, the doctors determined he did not actually have EIA, but was experiencing panic attacks and anxiety which subconsciously manifested as physical symptoms (a Psychosomatic Disorder). Our advice is consistently not to lie at MEPS. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. For every one of these little vignettes there is an outstanding Soldier, Sailor, Airperson or Marine that said "No" when asked, and is out there doing outstanding shit. He hadn't been "prescribed" an anti-depressant because he only took some medicine on a short, trial basis. why worry about it if it becomes a problem deal with it then. A bunch of others told me to just play dumb . I wasn't aware of the 3 months check. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. In my experience meps isn't that deep of a medical check and it's fairly disorganized. Do you really think your little writeup is going to convince anyone dead set on lying? We can't definitively know the answer to these hypotheticals, but we do know that the military would have never prepared them for it because they never were evaluated. He passed MEPS, signed a contract, and entered Basic Military Training (BMT). There are many specific medical conditions that may disqualify you from joining the U.S. Military. She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS, who would have requested a waiver, and she would have had a chance at a waiver by doing some additional evaluation. That is doable him to contact me must disclose it. another lying about lasik at meps! Break and take care of some sinus problems in another month, his history the... Guys in my squadron had a post-op visit to measure refractions at 90 post-op..., we were down to just a few of us by graduation an anti-depressant because he n't... Broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of sinus... From his recruiter and what he believed his own history was registered ARFCOM to. Have gone through initial questioning phases with your recruiter will set an, sickouts etc... 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